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Strangeways • View topic - Islamic Music

Islamic Music

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Postby chicken » Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:36 am

as with any major religion, there are various branches of Islam. the music is question comes from the Sufi branch of the religion. neither extremist nor conservative nor imperialist, the Sufi's are all about mysticism. "what the listener needs to hear in our music, the listener will."

i discovered this music purely by accident. by looking up one artist on the internet, i found Nusrat. now, close to ten years later, i have been sent [now get this, it gets freaky]: the son of the first artist i was looking up doing a cover of Nusrat. {enter X-File zone: both the father and the son died at the same age, both of drowning in a river!!!!!!!!}



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Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan was a tremendously large man, which was his undoing in the end. his family has sung "Qawwali" music for like nine generations. the music originated in the 1300's-1500's as love songs and devotional poems to Allah. those songs and poems were sung the same way, again and again.

<a href='http://nusrat.com/' target='_blank'>Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan</a> this is a page about his work.


if you go to amazon.com and search for him, you can find sound clips.
he performed with a troop of perhaps ten to twelve. the instruments included drums, harmoniums, (and VERY RARELY anything else), except lots of rhythmic clapping. it is a 'call and return' vocal style wherein the lead vocalist will sing one line and the remaining troop with sing it back to him. sometimes they do this several times....the intent is to bring the listener past the words and into a deeper meaning. "what the listener needs to hear..."
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the lyrics of one song may be only twenty lines long, but the song may be 23 minutes. intermixed among the lyrics are Nusrat doing some extemporaneous "scatt". i'm not sure what other term to use. scatt is the only i know. he makes these punctuated repetitative noises, it's inspiring.

this music has been sung for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.
and i absolutely positively love it.
(i'm telling you, and trust your uncle chicken here, when the man sang, he left this earth!)
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it would go to a desert isle with me.
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it's a repeat, but i love this picture:
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the samples you find on the internet are muted and muffed. i hate them. the real music is wonderful, truly awesome.

pm me an addy.
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Postby rubygirl » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:17 am

Trying to get us hooked, mister! <!--emo&;)-->Image<!--endemo-->

I have heard some songs of his some time ago, I think I liked them. But now I know where from I can take some whole albums by Nusrat, so I'll try them very soon. <!--emo&:D-->Image<!--endemo--> - and then will have a proper opinion.
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Postby elko » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:29 am

I agree, that is a wonderful picture!

I think I have heard a few clips, at least, when I was studying world music in college I heard stuff from pretty much everywhere. Will certainly check round Fopp, they usually have stuff for a fiver from pretty much anywhere in the world.
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Postby chicken » Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:54 pm

i was trying to find tim buckley when i first found nusrat.
hearing jeff, tim's son, try a cover of nusrat is wondrous. it's a live recording and when he starts, you can hear the crowd laugh at it, as if it were a joke. but jeff continues and boy howdy does he work his guitar hard. about a third of the way through the track he really lets loose some vocals and crowd is all hip hip hurrah for the song now. it's quite cool.

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i'd be a false qawwali listener if i didn't share my adoration.
i mean seriously, for those of you who play an instrument: a 23-minute song? i can't imagine that.


they say people would fall into ecstatic trances during his performances, and i know he performed far more often in europe/asia than america. i've one disc of his performance at royal albert hall (i think that's what it's called)....which is just.....o my goodness.
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kk. i feel better. i'll halt this trance--errr, i mean rant-- here, thanks.
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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:26 pm

Peter Murphy of Bauhaus converted to Islam and his solo work is greatly inspired by Sufism as well...

Did you know though that Muhammed has forbidden music? I am not sure why, but apparently it was considered a dangerous way of spreading 'wrong' messages... In Iran music is still forbidden (some local artists exiled in order to be able to continue making music) and as far as I know Saudi Arabia's music scene is also strictly clandestine...
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Postby irishbloodirishheart » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:13 pm

i got into sufi music, and Nusrat when i was working in orphanages in India and they used to use sufi music as lullabies to calm the children adn put them to sleep. i love Nusrat now, expecially Yeh Jo Halka Saroor Hae

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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:59 pm

Definitely check Bastet, very mysterious yet catchy song. And Amulet's a great one as well!
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